Ginny Silver - Business Coach for Creatives
Ginny Silver - Business Coach for Creatives
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How to Get a Business License in Oakland California
How to get a business license in Oakland, California step by step tutorial for your business tax certificate to start a business in Oakland California
Apply here: ltss.oaklandnet.com/Apply/GettingStarted/=BusinessLicense
➡️Get the FREE 2023 Ultimate Entrepreneur's Planner: business.ginnysilver.com/pl/2147559445
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Must-Have Business Tools
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KAJABI - 30 days FREE
Create your website, ecourses, mailing list, opt-ins, podcast, and more
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INCFILE - Form your LLC for $0
shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=617326&u=709885&m=53954&urllink=&afftrack=
GUSTO - The best all-in-one payroll software to hire, pay, and stay compliant (get $100 with this link)
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Ginny Silver and Retrospect Images, LLC provides content to UA-cam for entertainment purposes only. It is the responsibility of the viewer to verify all information as information may be inaccurate or outdated. Ginny Silver is not a CPA, attorney, insurance agent, lender, EDD or other government employee, or financial advisor and content in these videos shall not be construed as legal, financial, tax, government, or other advice. You are urged to contact a certified professional to help your individual needs.
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How to Get a Business License in San Jose California
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If you are starting a business in San Jose California you will need to register for a San Jose business license - also known as a business tax certificate. Here is a full step by step tutorial on how to get your business license in San Jose California. #california #sanjose #businesslicense Business license application for San Jose: www.sanjoseca.gov/your-government/departments-offices/finance/b...
CDTFA Sales Tax Tutorial - How to File and Pay Sales Tax Return for Your Business in California
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Wondering how to file sales tax in California? In this step by step tutorial I will show you how to pay your sales tax for those who already hold a California Seller's Permit. Quarterly California Sales Tax Reports are due to the CDTFA for those small businesses who hold a California Seller's Permit at the end of October - if you aren't sure how to file yours I'll show you in this easy step by ...
How to Get a Business License in San Francisco California - Business Tax Certificate Step By Step
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If you are starting a business in San Francisco California you will need to register for a San Francisco business license - also known as a business tax certificate. Here is a full step by step tutorial on how to get your business license in San Francisco California. #sanfrancisco #sfbusiness Business license application for San Francisco: sftreasurer.org/business/register-business Cal Gold: ca...
How to Get a Business License in San Diego California - Business Tax Certificate
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Full step by step tutorial on how to get your business license in San Diego California. In order to start a business in San Diego you must register for a business tax certificate, also known as a business license for your San Diego small business. This tutorial will show you exact where to apply for your business license and how to complete the business license application for San Diego, CA. Ap...
How to Automatically Transcribe and Convert A YouTube Video to a Kindle E Book with AI
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➡️Automatically TRANSCRIBE and convert UA-cam videos to Kindle Ebooks and PDFs (affiliate link) - ginnysilver page1.thrivecart.com/designrr-offer-one-time-payment/ How I automatically generate transcripts, ebooks, PDFs, and more from UA-cam videos! Simply copy your UA-cam video link and input it into this generator and it will transcribe and convert the video to text and generate a transcript, ...
Generate an Ebook with AI FAST
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➡️Automatically generate ebooks, Kindle ebooks, and lead magnets using Designrr (affiliate link) - ginnysilver page1.thrivecart.com/designrr-offer-one-time-payment/ Need to create a lead magnet to build your email list and find your target customers? This AI tool will generate you custom ebooks on any topic. Build a detailed table of contents automatically and then generate the text based on yo...
How to Pay California LLC Annual Tax
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Step by step tutorial on how to pay your California LLC annual $800 tax to the Franchise Tax Board. Pay your LLC tax here: www.ftb.ca.gov/pay/index.html Look up your SOS entity number here: bizfileonline.sos.ca.gov/search/business #californiallc #callc #llctax 0:00 Intro 0:42 Form 568 1:04 Submit your $800 LLC tax payment 1:27 Income over $250,000 1:40 LLC Tax voucher 3522 2:10 Mail or Pay onli...
The 4 Things You MUST do BEFORE Starting an LLC
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DON'T start an LLC until you have done these four essential steps FIRST INCFILE - Form your LLC for $0 (affiliate link) shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=617326&u=709885&m=53954&urllink=&afftrack= #llc ➡️Get the FREE 2023 Ultimate Entrepreneur's Planner: business.ginnysilver.com/pl/2147559445 ➡️Get the FREE Business Startup Essentials Guide: business.ginnysilver.com/pl/2147668569 ➡️Get the FREE Start Your...
First Year California LLC Tax Waived?
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First Year California LLC Tax Waived?
How to Call the IRS - Self Employed Income Taxes, Business Taxes - IRS Phone Number Always Works
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How to Call the IRS - Self Employed Income Taxes, Business Taxes - IRS Phone Number Always Works
Virtual Address for your California LLC? Your home address may still be public UNLESS you DO THIS
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Virtual Address for your California LLC? Your home address may still be public UNLESS you DO THIS
How to Calculate California Sales Tax - California Seller's Permit CDTFA
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How to Calculate California Sales Tax - California Seller's Permit CDTFA
LLCs will be fined $500/day in 2024 if you don't do this
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LLCs will be fined $500/day in 2024 if you don't do this
Do I Need a Business License if I Have an LLC
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Do I Need a Business License if I Have an LLC
Do I Need a Seller's Permit If I Have an LLC
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Do I Need a Seller's Permit If I Have an LLC
California Sales Tax for Digital Products Step by Step
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California Sales Tax for Digital Products Step by Step
How to File Self Employed Taxes - First Time Self Employed Tax Return Guide for Small Business
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How to File Self Employed Taxes - First Time Self Employed Tax Return Guide for Small Business
Do Nothing Passive Income for Self Employed Small Businesses - the BEST High Yield Savings Account
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Do Nothing Passive Income for Self Employed Small Businesses - the BEST High Yield Savings Account
How to Get Self Employed California Paid Family Leave PFL and Self Employed Disability Insurance DI
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How to Get Self Employed California Paid Family Leave PFL and Self Employed Disability Insurance DI
Self Employed Finances 101 - How to Manage Money When You are a Sole Proprietor or LLC
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Self Employed Finances 101 - How to Manage Money When You are a Sole Proprietor or LLC
New Laws for California LLCs 2024
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New Laws for California LLCs 2024
How to Issue a 1099 Contractor Business Tax Form
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How to Issue a 1099 Contractor Business Tax Form
LLC 2024 New Law Requires You to File a BOI Report or Face $500/ Day Penalty
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LLC 2024 New Law Requires You to File a BOI Report or Face $500/ Day Penalty
MUST-DO IRS Steps if Your Business Paid an Independent Contractor - SIMPLE Step by Step
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MUST-DO IRS Steps if Your Business Paid an Independent Contractor - SIMPLE Step by Step
Should I Get an LLC for My Business #llc
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Should I Get an LLC for My Business #llc
FREE Business Bank Accounts You Can Open Online
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FREE Business Bank Accounts You Can Open Online
1099K $600 Rule Cancelled for 2023 by IRS
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1099K $600 Rule Cancelled for 2023 by IRS
Do These Now - Business BEFORE the Year Ends Checklist
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Do These Now - Business BEFORE the Year Ends Checklist
S Corps Can Save You Thousands OR Be an Expensive Mistake
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S Corps Can Save You Thousands OR Be an Expensive Mistake

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @k4line
    @k4line 4 години тому

    thank you!!! This is exactly what I needed to know!

  • @ggaccountingtax
    @ggaccountingtax 5 днів тому

    how apply when you are located outside California? We need to register or only file the exemption?

  • @meer5186
    @meer5186 5 днів тому

    Is it same tax exemption certificate?. And can we use it for truck trailer and it's parts purchase

  • @garcysworld
    @garcysworld 6 днів тому

    I started an LLC in April of this year. I went to pay online like your video described. After I entered my entity ID, it said "the entity type and entity ID does not math our records. Please verify this info and try again." Do you have to set up an FTB account as well before trying to pay online?

  • @marlenevaldovinoshernandez
    @marlenevaldovinoshernandez 6 днів тому

    Thank you for this video!

  • @mrmichael112002
    @mrmichael112002 6 днів тому

    Myself and many people receive for more than $600 through Venmo and never got a 1099K So Clickbait topic of the week or the year perhaps

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 6 днів тому

      Uhhh... nope. More recent videos of mine on this topic show that this law was delayed..... This was in fact a law which was amended to be delayed. Date of this video shows the current information at the time, followed by other videos with the new dates 🤣🤣🤣

  • @kayeetang3643
    @kayeetang3643 7 днів тому

    thank you ! it is great video guide. may i ask the total sales is referring the sales in CA or i have to put in the total sales for my entire business? Thank you

  • @aishanusoul
    @aishanusoul 9 днів тому

    What about Nevada

  • @xandrewgarcia
    @xandrewgarcia 11 днів тому

    Thanks ! 😇 Very helpful information. I just recently filed my LLC & was wondering what the next step was.

  • @dvsmike
    @dvsmike 12 днів тому

    There goes my home bbq idea.🤨 So i guess i would have to conduct that business as a street vendor or food truck

  • @lexie1238
    @lexie1238 12 днів тому

    How can you do it on autopilot for your business and how much is it?

  • @marissajanae3720
    @marissajanae3720 12 днів тому

    Hi! Not sure if you can help but should my sellers permit have my name on it? Mine has my business name and my personal name on it?

  • @GrouphomeA
    @GrouphomeA 16 днів тому

    What if u have an llc but never used it or open a company

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 16 днів тому

      If you have an LLC then you have started a registered company and are required to submit all LLc documents, annual reports, and fees regardless of if you are making sales or not.

    • @GrouphomeA
      @GrouphomeA 16 днів тому

      @ginnysilver thank appreciate it thank u

  • @Karmaforyou1
    @Karmaforyou1 17 днів тому

    Do you pay on the exact day they schedule, or can you pay before the date? Thanks.

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 16 днів тому

      After the end of the quarter but any day before the due date

    • @Karmaforyou1
      @Karmaforyou1 16 днів тому

      @ginnysilver I am trying to do it for due date June 30, however I didn't do any sells so is zero but I don't understand what should I report because I don't see an opinion.

  • @sniperfox0108
    @sniperfox0108 17 днів тому

    I am currently 17 years old and want to start a business. But since I am underage, I am going to use my mother’s information to start this business. Would it still be considered a sole proprietorship if I am the one controlling all the business but just under my mom’s name? Thanks!

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 17 днів тому

      No - not a sole proprietorship but a parent can form an LLC (a limited liability company) for their child's business. The parent would be the organizer, noted in the paperwork.

    • @sniperfox0108
      @sniperfox0108 17 днів тому

      @@ginnysilver so that would be the only option as of right now? Once I turn 18, should I change it? Thank you so much for your responsse

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 17 днів тому

      Because a minor can not sign binding business contracts, it is generally not a good idea to start a sole prop for a minor. The Sole prop would be your parents and you would be an employee or independent contractor of your parents business, obligated to all required employee/labor laws. LLC with the parent as the organizer is generally how this would be done instead.

    • @sniperfox0108
      @sniperfox0108 17 днів тому

      @@ginnysilver thank you for your response once again. So once I turn 18, should I apply for a new llc just for me or something else. Also, is there a video that talks about minors owning a business legally? Thank you so much

  • @Shaikh_Rafique
    @Shaikh_Rafique 18 днів тому

    Ginny u are such an amazing gandoo thank you so much

  • @Aelisha_Cade
    @Aelisha_Cade 18 днів тому

    I hope you'll see this question, Ginny. I have been absorbing your content and learning so much to help me organize my business. This one area has been difficult for me to find answers for: If I have registered my business with a DBA/sole proprietor and I set up a virtual mailing address, will ALL my mail (business and personal) now be forwarded to the virtual mailing address, including amazon packages etc.? Does going through the notary process and transferring my mail mean there is no longer a separation between personal and business mail since I'm a sole proprietor? This is my only reservation about setting up a virtual mailing address. I would like a way to keep a separation between my business and personal mail.

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 17 днів тому

      Mail is sent where you specify. Your Amazon orders and other online purchases ask for you to input your shipping address in the account. The only reason personal mail wouldn't be sent where you specified with that merchant would be if you filed a change of address/mail forwarding service with USPS.

    • @Aelisha_Cade
      @Aelisha_Cade 17 днів тому

      @@ginnysilver Awesome. Thank you so much!

  • @KhunshanAhmad
    @KhunshanAhmad 18 днів тому

    When the 800 usd tax is due if llc is formed in march 2024?

  • @tonyjalili2367
    @tonyjalili2367 18 днів тому

    Voice is terrible, low quality unbearable

  • @ulisesp1338
    @ulisesp1338 18 днів тому

    So would I have to wait the four weeks before I can start step 2?

  • @Kibinishi
    @Kibinishi 20 днів тому

    If I have a body car shop in a City, do I still need to get a state license with the website you provided? Or do I contact the City for their license?

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 20 днів тому

      Are you forming an LLC or operating as a sole proprietor? You need to determine what type of business entity you are forming first

  • @DripGoku_8
    @DripGoku_8 20 днів тому

    Just started a clothing brand at the comfort of my own barracks room in Italy. My question is even tho I’m a U.S citizen, do I have to get a business registration and a seller permit in Vicenza? I’ll be here for the next 3 years, then going back to the states.

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 20 днів тому

      You need to research your local laws - I do not have information on Italy's business laws. You can register your business to a US address and obtain the US required permits and operate it remotely, but Italyay likely have its own requirements of you to sell to customers there and hold inventory.

  • @antoninosolano2670
    @antoninosolano2670 21 день тому

    I did deposit several hundreds of dollars, i used to buy goods on ebay, which i pay taxes, now the IRS wants me to pay tax on my deposits, can i get my ebay statements and ovoid paying taxes twice?

  • @Aelisha_Cade
    @Aelisha_Cade 21 день тому

    Question: If I get my USPS 1583 form complete and notarized etc as a sole proprietor, will my personal mail also be routed to this address as well as personal packages etc.?

  • @truemetaljesus
    @truemetaljesus 22 дні тому

    THIS is the video I needed. Not only did you specify the needs for business licences but also nexus and HOW to keep track of it. ✅

  • @TwinPak24
    @TwinPak24 22 дні тому

    Is that pertaining to farmers markets or events?

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver 22 дні тому

      Yes you need a sellers permit for both.

  • @PatrimonyPainting
    @PatrimonyPainting 23 дні тому

    Thank you for the video! Do I need to send w9 to my independent contractor and after that 1099 at the end of the year?

  • @dianamasuoka6305
    @dianamasuoka6305 24 дні тому

    This was the perfect tool I was looking for to complete the sellers permit form I need for my new business. Can you answer a question I came across while watching the video? How do I choose a NAICS number? I found #454390 that seemed to fit my new business of selling gift boxes at local craft fairs. I also found SIC code #59639904 and don't know if I need to use - or have - both. Can you tell me if you think the NAICS number I chose is correct, or does it get close enough to be acceptable for completing the sellers permit. Hope you can help. Thanks so much for your video. I'm going to subscribe to your channel too.

  • @mariocolindres6876
    @mariocolindres6876 25 днів тому

    what about civilian pentegon services

  • @mariocolindres6876
    @mariocolindres6876 25 днів тому

    Dudes overpayment and not one box of marketing pillow with thus lagit buizion.

  • @LeRoyLundberg
    @LeRoyLundberg 26 днів тому

    Exactly what I needed to know. Thank you for making this video.

  • @Drpuneetsingh
    @Drpuneetsingh 29 днів тому

    you skipped some points

  • @dyanswill
    @dyanswill 29 днів тому

    Im working with some private investigators. My dad passed and I've got$65 k in unclaimed funds from his old IRAs. Do you know how long it takes? I feel like I've been waiting forever. They said 6 months. Don't expect to get your money fast.

  • @samuelestrada-porter488
    @samuelestrada-porter488 Місяць тому

    Half of your video is cut off on the right and you cant even see what you are referring to

  • @simplementemacarons101
    @simplementemacarons101 Місяць тому

    I just finished this step! Thank you for your help. Also Fyi I had additional steps for sole proprietor

  • @curious.moonlight
    @curious.moonlight Місяць тому

    I accidentally submitted application without putting in my dba. Will they help me fix it if i call them in the morning

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      Yes they should be able to amend this for you

  • @datadoesdorian
    @datadoesdorian Місяць тому

    It's so annoying how taxes are so complicated Other countries process taxes so much more easily

  • @user-ms5uu7ig3l
    @user-ms5uu7ig3l Місяць тому

    STOP USING THE WORD OBLIGATED

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      OBLIGATED

    • @user-ms5uu7ig3l
      @user-ms5uu7ig3l Місяць тому

      @@ginnysilver you’re toxic, I’m never watching your videos

    • @user-ms5uu7ig3l
      @user-ms5uu7ig3l Місяць тому

      @@ginnysilver stop being ingrained to think you know a random person when you don’t.

    • @user-ms5uu7ig3l
      @user-ms5uu7ig3l Місяць тому

      @@ginnysilver thinking you know a random person that’s not in life proves you are stu*pid

    • @user-ms5uu7ig3l
      @user-ms5uu7ig3l Місяць тому

      @@ginnysilver you’re toxic

  • @tabithahelms
    @tabithahelms Місяць тому

    I can't believe we have to pay that much if our business hasn't made any money! And that they don't ever send a bill or reminder; how's anyone supposed to even know this is required?? CA is awful. I've dissolved my LLC, but I'm afraid I still owe this money. Is there somewhere we can look up what we owe?

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      You can call the California Franchise tax board, however they often take a few years to audit unpaid account and may tell you you are fine, only to receive a bill later on when they have caught up on their overdue accounts

  • @jackiegutierrez7829
    @jackiegutierrez7829 Місяць тому

    Hi ! Is it ok if I’m my sellers permit my name doesn’t show ? It only shows the name of my business

    • @jackiegutierrez7829
      @jackiegutierrez7829 Місяць тому

      *in

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      As long as you completed the application with all accurate information, your seller's permit will be issued to your business name yes - this would be your registered DBA or LLC name and is correct.

  • @curious.moonlight
    @curious.moonlight Місяць тому

    Would online resller be retail sales business type?

  • @aymankhaled2151
    @aymankhaled2151 Місяць тому

    Hi Ginny, i haven't paid any of the 800 dollar taxes since starting my LLC in 2020. At least I don't recall doing so. How on earth can I see what I owe? apparently according to the SOS my LLC is in good standing. I am really confused.

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      The do not have a billing system that alerts you. You are just obligated to pay it either by check or though we pay. If not paid, they accrue fines and monthly interest and usually they send you a notice 1-3 years after it was due once they realize you are delinquent. I missed one payment and received a notice over a year after delinquency and it had an additional $300 in fines. Pay online using webpay asap for the years you know you owe.

    • @aymankhaled2151
      @aymankhaled2151 Місяць тому

      @@ginnysilver valuable. Thank you for your timely response.

  • @RaffaelloSwissWatches
    @RaffaelloSwissWatches Місяць тому

    Thanks Ginny. For those that may have some problems registering with home address and could not use my UPS STORE mailbin address (because it says it is not verified) what address could be used to registered? Thanks.

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      You need a designated business address - your home address can be used, or you would need to pay for a virtual office which allows business registrations to use the address

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      Ipostal is the service I recommend

    • @RaffaelloSwissWatches
      @RaffaelloSwissWatches Місяць тому

      @@ginnysilver Thanks, there may be some issues at home so I am up to pay for a virtual office which allows business registrations to use the address. Are you aware of anyone who provide that service? (Sorry but it is the first time I hear this). Thanks.

  • @vicr8815
    @vicr8815 Місяць тому

    None of us should be dealing with all this crap. EDD needs to be prosecuted!

  • @RaffaelloSwissWatches
    @RaffaelloSwissWatches Місяць тому

    If I understand correctly, if a person (not an LLC) sells only on marketplace facilitators (such as eBay and Etzy) does not need a seller's permit. As trader, how can one then remit taxes to CDTFA via eBay? Also, where can we contact you/your business? Thanks.

  • @lisalucci4827
    @lisalucci4827 Місяць тому

    Thank you for breaking it down so well I appreciate it🎉

  • @kirohisham6003
    @kirohisham6003 Місяць тому

    How do US taxes know that you own an e-commerce LLC as a non-US resident?

  • @texasnanna
    @texasnanna Місяць тому

    My question is, if you have a company on net 30, but it is time to pay sales tax, do you pay the sales tax for invoices you sent out that month or do you pay them in the month you got paid on them?

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      When you receive the money

  • @kirohisham6003
    @kirohisham6003 Місяць тому

    What do I need to provide to the bank and taxes (virtual mailing address or virtual business address)? What is the best site to get it?

    • @ginnysilver
      @ginnysilver Місяць тому

      The bank will want your registered business address. What address did you use on your business license?

    • @kirohisham6003
      @kirohisham6003 Місяць тому

      @@ginnysilver I use the virtual mailing address of ipostal1, which costs $9.99 Is this good to submit to the bank and taxes??

    • @kirohisham6003
      @kirohisham6003 Місяць тому

      @@ginnysilver I use the virtual mailing address, which is available on the ipostal1 website and costs $9.99 per month. Does this work?

  • @vettewinans3080
    @vettewinans3080 Місяць тому

    This needs to be deleted. it's outdated